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Old 07-10-2017, 12:41 AM
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Why Modify a TRD Pro?


First my disclaimer, I have been pretty well immersed throughout the entire forum since securing my Pro but am yet to find a sound answer. I will give my conclusion at the end but I need to know if I am too far off base. I also did not want to hijack the "4runner TRD Pro" thread so thought a clean start would be fitting.

Why all the Modifications on a TRD Pro?

The definition in my book of a "modification" is different than "accessory" but that seems to be muddied throughout this site. I have plenty of "accessories" (or even "upgrades") in route already. Things like a roof rack, ladder, awning, rain visors, sliders, stickers, custom cargo boxes in the rear all fall under the accessory column for me.

Upgrades are things like the winch & bumper, Fender paint, yellow fog lights, murdering out the lettering, tinting the windows, adding a switch and dongle for anytime back up camera and even putting cup holders in the bumper (thank you @Antman for that genius idea) These are all just improving what already exists due to personal preference.

Considering the manufactures build package of a TRD Pro, and why I bought one, I do not see the need for true modifications. There are only two things I am doing that might qualify as mods. Adding the spidertrax to the wheels, but that is simply to improve the looks, to my eye, and changes nothing in performance...okay, maybe .015% like some have mentioned, but it really is modifying just the looks, like paint. The other is extending the differential and eLocker breathers using @Cymon excellent thread. In that though I am again not exactly modifying Toyota's specs, just extending the depth of water crossings.

So it kind of boils down to this for me, out of sheer vanity and ability to take more gear with me on long trips into the woods, water and desert I will adorn my new baby with accessories and minor upgrades. I will not create a "Build Page" but maybe an accessory page and snap tons of pictures.

i am still seriously confused by the term "modification" or "mods" getting tossed around here. It may just be an anal tweak in my brain in how I respond to improper semantics, but there are things I see people doing that are truly modifying their trucks and I don't see the need. Where I am currently locked up is in the desire to add shocks, spacers, ginormous tires, cutting out fenders and metal to squeeze them in and get higher. I think I get it when people have the SR5 and are modifying them to improve their range and looks, but having personally taken a rental 2WD SR5 from the bottom of Death Valley to the 8133' parking lot at Mahogany Flat in the same day, ALL 4Runners already have an amazing ability inherently built into them already and should not need true modifications made.

Putting the SR5 example aside and focusing on the Pro (again, I love them all) WHAT true modifications are people doing to their Pro's and WHY?

I do not ask this to create a divide or better than thou anything, I truly want to know, other than accessories and upgrades, what else can I expect to add to my list of future modifications?

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can we just call them 4runners instead of pros?

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First my disclaimer, I have been pretty well immersed throughout the entire forum since securing my Pro but am yet to find a sound answer. I will give my conclusion at the end but I need to know if I am too far off base. I also did not want to hijack the "4runner TRD Pro" thread so thought a clean start would be fitting.

Why all the Modifications on a TRD Pro?

The definition in my book of a "modification" is different than "accessory" but that seems to be muddied throughout this site. I have plenty of "accessories" (or even "upgrades") in route already. Things like a roof rack, ladder, awning, rain visors, sliders, stickers, custom cargo boxes in the rear all fall under the accessory column for me.

Upgrades are things like the winch & bumper, Fender paint, yellow fog lights, murdering out the lettering, tinting the windows, adding a switch and dongle for anytime back up camera and even putting cup holders in the bumper (thank you @Antman for that genius idea) These are all just improving what already exists due to personal preference.

Considering the manufactures build package of a TRD Pro, and why I bought one, I do not see the need for true modifications. There are only two things I am doing that might qualify as mods. Adding the spidertrax to the wheels, but that is simply to improve the looks, to my eye, and changes nothing in performance...okay, maybe .015% like some have mentioned, but it really is modifying just the looks, like paint. The other is extending the differential and eLocker breathers using @Cymon excellent thread. In that though I am again not exactly modifying Toyota's specs, just extending the depth of water crossings.

So it kind of boils down to this for me, out of sheer vanity and ability to take more gear with me on long trips into the woods, water and desert I will adorn my new baby with accessories and minor upgrades. I will not create a "Build Page" but maybe an accessory page and snap tons of pictures.

i am still seriously confused by the term "modification" or "mods" getting tossed around here. It may just be an anal tweak in my brain in how I respond to improper semantics, but there are things I see people doing that are truly modifying their trucks and I don't see the need. Where I am currently locked up is in the desire to add shocks, spacers, ginormous tires, cutting out fenders and metal to squeeze them in and get higher. I think I get it when people have the SR5 and are modifying them to improve their range and looks, but having personally taken a rental 2WD SR5 from the bottom of Death Valley to the 8133' parking lot at Mahogany Flat in the same day, ALL 4Runners already have an amazing ability inherently built into them already and should not need true modifications made.

Putting the SR5 example aside and focusing on the Pro (again, I love them all) WHAT true modifications are people doing to their Pro's and WHY?

I do not ask this to create a divide or better than thou anything, I truly want to know, other than accessories and upgrades, what else can I expect to add to my list of future modifications?

Thank you all!

Want vs need. You could leave your pro stock and just load up the rear cargo when needed. As soon as you add the roof rack, which I'm assuming you'll load with extra weight, and then your cargo boxes,etc you might need new suspension for the added weight. You are basicallypaying for an appearance pacage with the pro. Yes there are the shocks with the 1" lift, but you could do that far cheaper starting at the same place then adding it. Been argued quite extensively. It becomes a "just one more thing" issue and before long you've spent way more than you intended.


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To make it better/cooler/more capable/etc... in my opinion if you buy a TRD Pro you're just paying for the cool paint color and slight bodywork alterations, the pro suspension isn't much different and most switch it out for a higher lift anyways.

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To make it better/cooler/more capable/etc... in my opinion if you buy a TRD Pro you're just paying for the cool paint color and slight bodywork alterations, the pro suspension isn't much different and most switch it out for a higher lift anyways.



The color got me I'd say, but everyone always leaves out the crawl mode. That's it best feature to me... I have yet to use it though lol so I'm going off of videos


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The color got me I'd say, but everyone always leaves out the crawl mode. That's it best feature to me... I have yet to use it though lol so I'm going off of videos


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The Trail edition has the same crawl control feature so it's not unique to the pro.
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The Trail edition has the same crawl control feature so it's not unique to the pro.



I was told at toyota (for what that's worth) that it was getting phased out. Nice to know though, because I didn't know. I had an H2 and traded in my Range Rover for my 4runner. So I'm still new to the 4runners. My oldest car is a Lexus, which is why I went with toyota.


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I was told at toyota (for what that's worth) that it was getting phased out. Nice to know though, because I didn't know. I had an H2 and traded in my Range Rover for my 4runner. So I'm still new to the 4runners. My oldest car is a Lexus, which is why I went with toyota.


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I'm not sure what the future plans for the new model trucks are but my 2016 trail edition has the crawl control and the rear locker. The same things that the pro edition has. The suspension on the pro edition is upgraded as compared to the trail.
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I kind of agree the the OP on mod vs accessory thing. Bolting on something is more of an accessory thing to me and lord knows we like to bolt all sorts of things on. Mods are more of changing the mechanical aspects or changing the body shape, mounts, ect. but that is just my personal view. As for buying the pro, I had multiple reasons, better shocks for the type of terrain I'm mostly in, better tires, better resale, and the appearance, and the parts are covered under warranty. When the warranty runs out, I may upgrade shocks and push it upward but until then it will stay stock plus a few accessories, which are already on, sliders, behind the grill light bar, canvasback cargo liners, husky floor liners. I might add a few other accessories in the future, been eyeballing roof racks and awnings but haven't decided on which ones I might want to drop the money on.

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can we just call them 4runners instead of pros?

Careful man, judging from the response I got posting anything critical about the Pro over on the Pro color thread, everyone here needs to be careful about what they post from now about the Pro models....people can get hurt!

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I am calling the Pro a Bro from now on cuz we are all brothers here...And I completely agree with the OP, why modify a vehicle you bought with upgrades already installed from the factory? The Bro is a Trail edition with an appearance package and slightly improved suspension. So..That is why I bought the non appearance packaged Trail edition. In case I decided to upgrade major things like suspension, etc...I wouldn't be paying extra twice. Sound logical?

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Man i love this forum. Great points of view across the board.

And not this guy, everyone can say what they want how they want, opinions roll off my back like water off a ducks back for me. I left my feelings back at basic training 20 years ago haha!

I am looking at the facts really and you all are making sense. What is on the stock "trim package" of a Pro is what I would be going for to start with. Buying the appearance package, call it what you want, I get to roll it into my trucks financing and get the warranty coverage and know it is installed proper and not by a shop or buddy or god forbid, ME, so that is nice. I do like the color of the Cement, but yes Vinyl would answer any paints desire. I like the tires, rims, crawl... all of that and from what I could tell last year when I started this adventure, no matter what trim package I start with, the final price after adding what i wanted that is "beefier" would work out to be about the same, YMMV.

I thought of another basis for deciding what makes a mod vs. accessory. At the end of the day if i can return it to stock it was an accessory... that said I guess the SSO Slimline would be a modification since I will be cutting out a third of my bumper.

Anyway, lots of good points made already, and I will readily admit that a couple years from now when the tires NEED replaced and I have another 1/2 ton of armor, recovery equipment and an RTT strapped to it I will probably be looking to beef up the suspension...or, if the tulip mania is still bubbling with the not so level headed Pro buyers, I could sell it for a positive "investment" and have a hefty down payment on the next round. (okay, that might have been stretching it a bit but you have to admit that Pro badge is currently carrying an enormous premium)

All told, it IS a 4Runner, and that is what I already call it, Brothers (and Sisters)

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Want vs need. You could leave your pro stock and just load up the rear cargo when needed. As soon as you add the roof rack, which I'm assuming you'll load with extra weight, and then your cargo boxes,etc you might need new suspension for the added weight. You are basicallypaying for an appearance pacage with the pro. Yes there are the shocks with the 1" lift, but you could do that far cheaper starting at the same place then adding it. Been argued quite extensively. It becomes a "just one more thing" issue and before long you've spent way more than you intended.

So this is pretty close to the decision I am trying to make... I know I am going to load up my rig, I camp and kayak and bike and make things go bang and any given thing. Every truck i have had sags when I load up for a trip into the back country. Can't I assume that the stock Bilstein shocks that come with the Pro trim are going to be better than my past stock big three trucks have been? I see multiple threads regarding upgrading to these from what come on the SR5 and Trail (maybe) so could that package already live up to my needs?

Maybe a better question than that is this: Has anyone with the stock Bilstein shocks in their Pro Trim experienced any real problems when they are loaded down, thus needing to upgrade?

We all drive different when loaded down than when rough housing but maybe the overlander's here will have some good input.
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Careful man, judging from the response I got posting anything critical about the Pro over on the Pro color thread, everyone here needs to be careful about what they post from now about the Pro models....people can get hurt!

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I am calling the Pro a Bro from now on cuz we are all brothers here...And I completely agree with the OP, why modify a vehicle you bought with upgrades already installed from the factory? The Bro is a Trail edition with an appearance package and slightly improved suspension. So..That is why I bought the non appearance packaged Trail edition. In case I decided to upgrade major things like suspension, etc...I wouldn't be paying extra twice. Sound logical?
I had to click over to the pro color thread to see what you were talking about and I must say that it did look like your post was just to put there to upset people. Personally I wanted the appearance package and slightly improved suspension. May upgrade later when the shocks need replacing and I won't be paying extra twice. After all, there is a thread on how to put the appearance package on your non pro and people are paying for it. In my mind, Just buy the pro and get the better resale value.
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2022 Toyota 4Runner Trim Guide: Is TRD Pro the Best Version of this Off-Road SUV?

Overlanding, performance, or luxury, there’s a 4Runner for any drive.

So, you're seeking a modern, comfortable, efficient midsize SUV—why on earth are you looking at the toyota 4runner? This is no common crossover. The 4Runner is a proper SUV, with old-school body-on-frame construction and a live rear axle. It runs a thirsty V-6 engine joined to a five—five!—speed automatic transmission and true part-time four-wheel drive with low-range gearing. This fifth-generation 4Runner went on sale for the 2009 model year, making it one of the oldest vehicles on sale. Why does this automotive anachronism still find buyers? Because it's an off-road beast. Read on to compare every 2022 4Runner trim, and our choice in the lineup.

2022 Toyota 4Runner SR5 Features and Pricing

Like all 2022 4Runners, the entry-level SR5 trim gets standard full LED headlights and rear seat occupant alert. Exterior equipment includes 17-inch alloy wheels, mud flaps, and a roll-down rear tailgate window—an iconic 4Runner feature. Inside, the SR5 has fabric seating upholstery and a power-adjustable driver's seat, an 8.0-inch infotainment display, and five USB ports. Conveniences include keyless entry with push-button start and—as any off roader should—a full-size spare tire. Every 4Runner gets eight airbags and Toyota Safety Sense driver-assist features. However, its adaptive cruise control is an older system that does not work below 25 mph. Starting at about $38,500 with RWD, choosing 4WD adds $1,875 to the SR5's price. This, SR5 Premium, and Limited are the 4Runner trims offered with third-row seating.

2022 Toyota 4Runner Trail Special Edition Features and Pricing

What's so special about the 4Runner Trail Special Edition? To start, it gets blacked-out badges. Since some of the 4Runner's 88.8 cubic feet of cargo space are taken up by a 40-quart food and drink cooler, Toyota compensates by bolting a cargo basket to the roof, so there's still space for overlanding gear. To the "Trail" part of its name, its 17-inch dark-finished alloy wheels are wrapped in mud-and-snow-rated tires. The Trail Special Edition doesn't get 4WD as standard; it remains an $1,875 extra above the standard RWD trim's approximately $40,500 base price.

2022 Toyota 4Runner TRD Sport Features and Pricing

Toyota Racing Development has long applied its off-road know-how to SUVs, but it takes a different approach with the 4Runner TRD Sport. This new-for-2022 trim has a pavement focus, indicated by its 20-inch wheels and all-season tires. Toyota's X-REAS cross-linked hydraulic suspension system aims to improve ride and handling. Other distinguishing details include exterior badges, a hood scoop, and TRD shift knob. If, for some reason, you want the most handling-oriented 4Runner, then the TRD Sport is your choice. It starts at about $41,500 with RWD, and $43,000 with 4WD. Nevertheless, other SUVs are more fun to drive.

2022 Toyota 4Runner SR5 Premium Features and Pricing

As its title suggests, the SR5 Premium adds a few upgrades to the base 4Runner trim. These include leatherette seating upholstery, heated and power-adjustable front seats, a 40/20/40 split-folding second row bench seat, and an auto-dimming rearview mirror. Built-in navigation and a universal garage door opener highlight the technology upgrades. The additions bring the SR5 Premium's price to around $42,000 with RWD and $43,000 with 4WD.

2022 Toyota 4Runner TRD Off Road Features and Pricing

Now we're talkin'. TRD Off Road trim is the least expensive one that's truly dedicated to trail performance. Headlining its upgrades is standard 4WD with a locking rear differential, which sends power to 17-inch TRD wheels wearing all-terrain tires. Ground clearance measures 9.6 inches. Electronic aids like trail cruise control, multi-surface traction modes, and hill-descent control help in the dirt. Familiar styling cues include a hood scoop and TRD badging. Be aware that the TRD Off Road has basic unheated, cloth-covered seats, but comes with rubber floor mats—all part of its rugged appeal. It starts at about $42,500.

2022 Toyota 4Runner TRD Off Road Premium Features and Pricing

Like with the SR5 Premium and its non-premium counterpart, the TRD Off Road Premium trim gains an auto-dimming rearview mirror, split-folding second-row seats, and heated, leatherette-trimmed power front seats. These ones have headrests emblazoned with a red TRD logo. That's on top of the requisite trail hardware, and gives the TRD Off Road Premium a roughly $44,000 starting price.

2022 Toyota 4Runner Limited Features and Pricing

The Limited trim seeks to civilize the 4Runner with luxurious touches. These include a standard sunroof, dual-zone climate control, and heated leather-wrapped seats. Front and rear parking sensors, a 15-speaker premium audio system, and a 360-degree parking camera system are among this trim's technology inclusions. Lots of chrome exterior trim and absent mudflaps distinguish the Limited trim from its down-and-dirty counterparts. The X-REAS suspension system and 20-inch wheels improve this 4Runner's handling acumen. Limited RWD models start at just over $48,000, and 4WD at $50,000.

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2016 Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro
Mileage: ~26,000
Color: Quicksand/Solid Black
Condition: Mechanically – Excellent, Aesthetically –Very Good
Maintenance: Current including recent airbag recall completed
Location: Oro Valley, AZ (Just north of Tucson)
Miscellaneous: No smoking, no kids, no pets, no accidents, clean title
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Price: $39,500
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Summary: This is 1 owner 4Runner TRD Pro purchased new from dealership and all modifications were completed by professional installers Overall, this vehicle is in great condition but there is some scratching of paint, scuffs etc. as would be expected from an overlanding vehicle that is driven off-road. We are sad to be selling our awesome overlanding vehicle but we plan to spend significant time outside of the USA and we don’t want to leave it sitting in storage.

Manufacturer Upgrades:
• All Weather Mats/Cargo Tray

After-market Modifications and Accessories:
• FrontRunner Slimline Roof Rack (installed by Defenders NW, manufacturer replaced and installed by Dixie 4-Wheel Drive in St. George, UT) – 2016, 2017
• Gobbi 4Runner Ladder GT4RLAD (installed by Mule Expedition) - 2017
• Warn Zeon 10S Recovery wench with Dura Synthetic rope (installed by Mule Expedition) - 2017
• Southern Style Off-road Slimline Hybrid front bumper with powder coating and hoop plus 20" integrated single-row Baja Designs flush mount S8 LED lightbar - 2017
• Electrical modifications (completed by Mule Expedition) including: - 2017
o Dual Battery System including Blue Sea Charging Relay (ML-ACR), Victron Battery Monitor (BMV702) in rear cargo area, Interstate Deep Cycle Battery (Group 29 – replaced in 2018) with custom mounting tray under hood
o Additional USB and 12 V Charging Ports for 2nd Battery in cargo area
o Lightbar switch in dash
o Battery isolator/combiner switch in dash
o Installation of Anderson connector on outside of vehicle for solar, etc.
• 1 set of Titan Tire Chains with cam tighteners- 2017

Known Defects: Driver rear bumper scuffs and panel misalignment as wife reversed into our wood fence. Per body shop, no structural damage and it is only cosmetic so it was not repaired since it is used as an overlanding vehicle and does not affect performance (see pix).

 

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2020 Toyota 4Runner Off Road Premium - 1 Year Ownership And Mods Overview

List of Mods on my 2018 Toyota 4Runner

One of the reasons I purchased a Toyota 4Runner was for its off-road capability.  I debated between which trim level and off-road features to purchase, and dreamed of endless off-road adventures. I was going to chase down those beautiful destinations that you see all over the internet. Couldn’t wait to hit the mud!

In reality, the first time I drove down a dirt road I went about 5 mph and avoided every single tiny obstacle I could see. I was too scared of damaging the truck, so turned around after about a mile when the road started to get “rough”.

It wasn’t until I went off-roading with a few friends in Arizona that I learned to ease up on my fears. We took the back road to Oatman and ended up getting lost in a wash. Driving out of the wash required following a very narrow trail up a small ridge. Not only did I hit my skid plate on a large boulder, but I also found out what desert pin stripping was. My truck was no longer in pristine condition!

Desert Pin Stripping

TRD Off-Road Premium versus TRD Pro

Back when I was purchasing my 4Runner, I started comparing the different trim levels and the price difference between them.  Leather seats were a non-negotiable as they are so much easier to clean and tend to smell less with the pets (the 4Runner really has a “pleather” type material).  The other non-negotiable was a sunroof, as previously I had used these extensively in my other vehicles (funny thing is I’ve used it less than 10 times now in the 4Runner).

My stock 2018 Toyota 4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium

I also wanted to have the upgraded off-roading features, such as the crawl mode.  This only came in the TRD Off-Road Premium or TRD Pro versions.  However, there was almost a $7,000 MSRP difference between these two models.  In doing the research, I found the main difference between the two models (other than cosmetic items such as the grill, wheels and colors) was Bilstein shocks, upgraded springs and an extra skid plate with TRD markings.  Through quick research I knew I could put on an upgraded suspension for well under $7,000. 

I also was able to secure a very good deal on a TRD Off-Road Premium model, thereby bringing the difference in price between the two further apart.  With the upgraded suspension in mind, I went for the great deal and knew in the near future I would work to upgrade the suspension.

Bump Stops

The trip to Oatman made me realize how much I enjoyed being able to cruise down the dirt roads and explore the back country.  Unfortunately I had previously made an upgrade to the rear suspension which created a terrible off-road experience.

When towing the Airstream Basecamp, the stock 4Runner suspension will sag drastically under the heavy tongue weight.  In order to fix the sag, I installed Timbren Bump Stops.  This fixed the sag issue for less than $500 with installation.  When towing, the suspension felt extremely smooth and comfortable.  I had read in reviews that it could make off-road driving less comfortable, but figured it couldn’t be that bad.

The Road to Oatman

Oh, but it was!  With the bump stops installed, they only allowed for an inch or two of room for the suspension to move before hitting the bump stops hit the rear frame.  This meant with any type of rough terrain, the rear frame would continually hit the bump stops quite hard.  While heading to Oatman, my friend who was sitting in the back seat hit his head multiple times on the roof of the 4Runner due to the poor ride.  Jasper was also being thrown all around.  It was not a fun experience for anyone.

That’s when I decided it was time to build out the 4Runner.  I could have switched back to the stock bump stocks and gone with a weight distribution hitch to fix the sag, but I figured this was the time to create the 4Runner of my dreams.  May as well put the mods on now while I have low miles and can enjoy them for a long time!

Picking out the Mods

I don’t know much about suspensions or lifts, so I began to read 4Runner forums.  After spending hours reading and trying to wrap my head around what was going on, all the information and opinions out there became too overwhelming.  I reached out to a few friends to see what they thought, and each had their own suggestions on what brands and mods were the best.

At that point, I decided this was more than I wanted to sit down and figure out.  Instead, I began researching small off-road shops that had extensive experience with 4Runners and found RSG Off-Road in Denver, CO.  They had amazing reviews, their website was filled with custom Toyota’s, and many forums mentioned their great service.  Perfect.
(Note: I am not sponsored nor receive any type of commission or discount from RSG. Just sharing the experience I had).

I literally sent them an email that said “I own a 2018 4Runner TRD Off-Road.  I would like to upgrade the suspension, put on a 3” lift, upgrade to 33” tires, place air bags on the back suspension and install some LED light bars on the front.”  I then proceeded to explain that I lived in an Airstream, meaning the 4Runner towed about 450lbs of tongue weight quite often, and that I wanted it built to drive comfortably down rougher dirt roads, but not for intense off-roading such as rock climbing.

Pre-Mod Setup

Then I sat back and waited.  That same day RSG reached out asking a few more clarification questions.  I spilled everything I thought I knew about suspensions and off-road gear and how I dreamed of the 4Runner looking, including some images I had found offline.  Several emails and phone calls later, RSG had a complete quote and parts list ready for my dream 4Runner build.

That’s when my mouth dropped on the floor.  The original quote was for $10,000.  

Thankfully, the quote was nice and detailed and showed me the labor breakdown and cost per mod, so I started going through them one by one to see what I really wanted versus what were the nice to haves.  It also showed the price for the parts, so I began shopping around online.

Suspension

The suspension was the main upgrade I was looking for, and knew I wanted to proceed with that mod.  Still not knowing much about suspensions, I tried searching the internet for the parts, but couldn’t find them for much cheaper than RSG had quoted.  Therefore, in the end it was just much easier to tell them to go ahead with the full suspension upgrade as per their recommendation.

I had also done some initial research and was leaning towards the Icon Stage 2 suspension.  After talking with RSG, they mentioned this particular suspension, although great, does require maintenance.  They instead recommend a Bilstein setup which has zero maintenance and was $600 cheaper.

They ended up installing Bilstein 6112 & 5160 shocks, SPC upper control arms, and OME rear coil springs.  While installing these, they lifted the 4Runner 3 inches as well.

I still can’t explain much of that suspension to you, but I can tell you it rides very well off-road.  Now having a year and a half with this new suspension, there have never been any issues and it has done very well from wide open desert roads to steep rocky roads in Colorado.  Jasper also highly enjoys the new 3″ lift, as he can comfortably curl up under the 4Runner for some shade.

Rear Air Bags

Part of my conversations with RSG was around fixing the sag caused by the tongue weight of the Airstream.  I could have installed heavy duty rear springs; however, this would have caused the new suspension to still feel very uncomfortable and stiff.  In the end, we settled on installing rear air bags that I can inflate when towing, and deflate when taking the 4Runner off-road.

RSG installed Air Lift 1000 rear coil springs.

The first time filling these air bags up, I almost overinflated them.  They don’t take much air at all!  After a quick second of the air compressor they are already up to the 15-20 psi that I need when towing. For off-roading, I drop this down to 5 psi.

The air bags greatly reduce the rear sag when towing.  I can tell when I have forgotten to re-inflate them, as the hood of the 4Runner is pointing up much more than it usually does. It still amazes me that such a small amount of air can create such a big difference.

Air Bags Inflated - No Sag!

Tires & Wheels

This was a bit of a splurge, but I really didn’t like the stock rims on the 4Runner.  One of the aesthetic parts I really liked about the TRD Pro was the black rims.  Also, by having the 4Runner lifted 3″, it was now possible to put on larger tires and get a more aggressive tread.  The nice part was the original stock tires were still in very good shape, so I was able to sell those and put the money towards the new tires.

In order to save money, I purchased the wheels and tires myself, then shipped to RSG.  The prices were much more reasonable this way.

The TRD 17 inch matte black wheels were purchased from a Toyota dealer for $187 a piece.  Also, by installing these new wheels, I no longer needed the wheel spacers required for the suspension upgrade.  These wheel spacers would have cost $280 installed, so I figured why not go for the upgraded wheels since I had to invest at least the $280 into this area anyway.

For wheels, RSG recommended the Falken Wildpeak AT3W.  I found the best deal on them through Amazon and shipped them straight to RSG.  With the new lift, I was able to install 285/70R17, which are almost 33″ in diameter.  I have taken these tires through upstate NY winters, Arizona deserts, Colorado rocky mountain roads and regular driving down the highway. They have done very well under every scenario.  The best part is they are quiet on the highway, even with the aggressive tread.

Air Compressor

At the time, I considered an on-board air compressor to be a nice to have and wasn’t sure if I should have it installed.  However, the small $50 compressor I had from Walmart broke after the first use so I would have had to buy another portable air compressor unit to carry along anyway.  Therefore I decided to spend the extra bit of money up front to have a compressor that could be mounted right in the engine bay so I didn’t have to try to figure out a place to store it.

I went with the ARB On-Board Twin Air Compressor.  In the end, I think this is the mod that I enjoy the most.  It’s such a relief to know I can refill the air in my Airstream or 4Runner tires whenever I need.  During off-roading trips, it’s very easy to air down the tires, and refill them at the end of the dirt road before hitting the pavement.  Recently I had a slow leak in my front tire while out boondocking.  I woke up to only 24 psi in the tire.  A quick fill with the onboard air compressor and I was good to go.

Mods I Never Installed

Originally I had wanted two light bars on the front of the 4Runner.  One would have been mounted inside the grill, while the other would be mounted right below my Gobi roof rack with Rago light mounts.  It was one cool looking setup.  However, these two mods would have cost $2,700 themselves.  At the time, I decided they fell lowest on the priority list and that I wouldn’t proceed with them.

In the end, I’m very happy I didn’t have them mounted.  Even with all the boondocking we do, I have never been in a situation where I needed more light.  I’m typically not out off-roading in unknown terrain after dark, where these type of lights would make me feel more comfortable.  The stock headlights are plenty to find my way back to my campsite after dark.

Conclusion

In the end, I spent around $5,500 for all of the above mods.  Although still expensive upgrades, I was able to get upgraded shocks, rear air bags, new tires and wheels as well as an on-board air compressor, all for less than if I had just purchased a TRD Pro to begin with.

I saved a lot of money by shopping around for the parts and then just paying for installation.  A year and a half in, with almost 35,000 miles on these upgrades, everything is still working as well as it was on Day 1.  Usually I don’t just go with what a dealer recommends without doing a ton of research to back up the decision, but in the end I’m glad I trusted the experts on this one.

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